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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:23 pm
by Bobby
I have often thought that people who claim to be Christian, most probably arent,[although as you say, we shouldnt judge others]. None of us are perfect,and the person who claims they are trying to be Christian, gets my vote,life goes on, difficulties arise, could I have handled it better, have I failed to help someone I could,these and others surely are the thoughts of people trying to be Christian. We all fall short,but some fall a lot shorter than others

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:41 am
by prancer
The tradition of the saints from the very beginning has always been to adopt the state of mind "Iam the least of all, I am the greatest sinner". Humillity is a hard virtue to cultivate, but is the basis of the true Christian life. So yes, some do fall shorter than others, but none more so than I.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:04 pm
by the beast
I never doubted you are a humble chap Prancer! :lol:

I spent many happy times wandering around the ruins next to the Cathederal..........But can't remember what religion is ordained in the Cathederal?

Being baptised in the Catholic faith myself, i still went to mass and services in St Davids......on special occasions!

PS. How is the Rugby club doing in its social scene? I recall it being a contentious subject within the younger community?

Be safe! :wink:

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:06 pm
by the beast
It should of course read Cathedral!

Be safe! :roll:

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:39 pm
by Bobby
The Cathedral, is Anglican, part of "The Church In Wales" It seperated from the Church Of England, just after the Great War, about 1919/1920. It was proposed earlier,but the Great War intervened. They actually feared the same situation would arise in Wales,as that in Ireland, if Wales didnt have its own church. Why it is the Church IN Wales, rather than OF wales, I dont know.
I dont know why the Anglican church doesnt make Saint either, but recognises the one made by the Roman Catholic Church.

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:42 am
by prancer
No, sadly I am far from humble, but I do know it, just as I know many other faults (such as spending work time on the internet).

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:08 pm
by the beast
:?

Prancer............What is with the ''site admin'' below your avatar??

Be safe!

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:27 am
by lewdnuance
Yea, well spotted, what does it mean Prancer? I think we've got to the bottom of something here, IS PRANCER THE WEB JANITOR? If so, it would explain why the latter hasn't "appeared" here much lately.
Let's out the Janitior/Prancer!!

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:30 am
by lewdnuance
In fact, look at his avatar, the head turned away to conceal his identity, it was staring us in the face all along!

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:20 am
by prancer
Hey Bobby, your question about Anglicanism and saints is aninteresting one, I'll try to be brief.
The Reformational churches not only split from Roman Catholicism as an institution, but also rejected some of its teaching. Christians have aLWAYS prayed for the dead, despite what evangelicals believe today, but the Protestant reformers felt that once someone died their fate was sealed, and so prayers said for them were not only pointless, but reflected heretical belief. Part of the Catholic (Roman & Orthodox) teaching was always that some people need our prayers because we can't be sure what has happened to them after death, while others lived such holy lives that we can with some confidence say that they are now in heaven with God. Since one of the ways Christians on earth express their love for oneanother is by praying for each other, the logical conclusion was that these "saints" would continue praying for the church on earth. Since they are holy, and since they are believed to be in heaven, then their prayers are considered particularly powerful.
The Anglican church has, since the Tractarian movement in Oxford, had a strong Anglo-catholic wing which has looked to Rome for guidance and theology. But even beyond this group Anglicans have tried to amintain that they are reformed but still catholic (a claim which many recognised as having to come to an end once it made the independent decision to ordain wome to the priesthood) and so there has been a tradition of celebrating saints' days, but living with the reality that they do not have the papal authority to canonise new saints.
Of course the Orthodox Church remains untouched by all of this, they had no schism (reformation), they remain true to their ancient and unchanged beliefs, including those about saints and the destiny of those who have died. The Orthodox Church often has local saints recognised by a town or even a village, often unknown beyond the local people.
I can't be bothered to check for typing errors, so there you have it.

As for the "Site Admin" thing, I'm afraid it wouldn't be wise for me to explain that right now.

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:34 am
by the beast
:lol:

Well, after all the speculation and controversy............All the questions and opinions?

All the conspiracy thories..........Fegg gas been outed!!

Be safe! :wink:

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:36 am
by the beast
Well, if you are the WJ......sort out your clock cos the time i have just posted is 13.31 european!

Be safe! :wink:

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:45 am
by Bobby
Many thanks for your interesting answer prancer. The history of the church,is fascinating.But its a pity they sometimes seem to forget who formed them and why! Some are so wrapped up in themselves and their buildings.
I have heard it said,if Christ turned up at a church today[especially a pretigious one] he would be told to leave.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:39 pm
by prancer
I'm afraid I'm not the WJ, i was at his place when I registered however, and hence the tag - sorry the truth in this case is less than exciting. Don't know where he is these days though.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:19 pm
by the beast
:?:

Whaddaya mean Prancer??

You were at his place whereupon you registered?

He was a mate of yours?

Don't know where he is now?

How does the site keep going?
Someone must be paying for it?

Lots a questions eh! You'd think i was a policeman!

Still, its intirguing isn't it!

Shall we ask Fegg?

What do you think Bobby?
Sue, do you have an opinion? You were close weren't you?

All bodes well for a mystery!

Answers on a postcard please!

Be safe! :wink: :wink:

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:01 am
by prancer
To sum it all up, I'm a rent boy, and one of the perks of my job is to use people's computers while they're sleeping. I came across this site riffling though one of client's files, and took a fancy to it.
If he ever uses our company again, maybe I will meet the WJ, but our prices have recently rocketed, and a lot of our customers tend to be southerners these days (which is fine by me and the boys because it's less painful, as we all know, southerners have smaller winkies).

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:57 am
by Sue
We argued. Which is probably what constitues a marriage for some people. Oh dear...

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:36 pm
by lewdnuance
Come on Sue, I seem to remember you two mentioning a past, or something like that, surely that means you too are part of this inner circle which is slowly revealing itself before our eyes.
This is all getting very interesting, I must say.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:03 pm
by the beast
Aye! Lewdnuance!

Methinks tis true, this 'PAST' you mention!

I've been perusing old posts from yesteryear..........and mysterious it is!

We know OUR Sue is soliciting from time to time ( and conveyncing )??

And Fegg was into real eastate ( well he did go on a bit about 2nd homes once )!

Perhaps they really did have a ' Thing ' going on??

Senor Prancer, i wholeheartedly concur that the southern softies tend to waine on the winkle side..........Or so my missus keeps telling me????

Be safe!

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:34 am
by lewdnuance
I'm afraid my personal knowledge of other men's winkies is limited, but what little experience I have certainly backs up this southerner idea.